Can you take geometry without taking algebra

I prefer Algebra 1, Algebra 2, Geometry. As long as there is review of Algebra 2 the student will be fine. Coming from a country where mathematics is not compartmentalized and geometry material is covered concurrently with algebra, I have never understood why it is packaged like this in the US. So I would like to suggest a different approach: covering geometry and algebra 2 concurrently over the course of two years. That way, there is a prolonged exposure to both topics, and no chance that either is forgotten while the other is studied.

This had the advantage that in the school year right before the college exams you would take BOTH algebra and geometry. Also, the thorough and facile use of the various equations of lines was covered in great detail in the first semester of algebra 2, which was quite helpful in geometry. I think that covering linear equations in Algebra 1 is more common and more complete now than it was when I took it.

Still, Saxon doesn't spend as much time on it as I would like in Algebra I gave my daughter lots of extra practice on it when we went through that curriculum last year. I think that is another very viable option. However, I'm not sure how that would look on a transcript or if it would be accepted by colleges.

Many homeschoolers list the subjects only on the transcript, not the years they were taken. You can also call it "integrated math" which covers both subjects anyway. How would you title it to indicate that it's Geometry and Algebra 2 that are integrated? Thanks for all the great input. I really like the idea of doing Geometry and Algebra II together over two years. I had planned to list classes by subject on his transcript anyway, so I don't think that would be an issue.

The public schools here in GA have gone to integrated math in high school also, so I doubt most colleges would give it a second thought. Another thought was to split them for 10th then do both at the same time for 11th to be finished by end of fall and then maybe do college algebra at the cc in the spring of 11th? We would obviously have to lighten his load in other areas to do this-he took a hs level physical science class in 8th, so we could technically skip a year of science.

The thorough math year would probably be a huge help for Physics in 12th. For me it depended on my sons' abilities at the time. By the time mine are ready for concurrent classes, they do college algebra, trig, and calculus at our local university to complete their high school transcript.

I like the idea of doing them both over two years too. If my youngest were homeschooling high school, I'd go that route. My idea would be to alternate them every other day - not over semesters. That would seem to be the best way to keep them both current in the brain. They cover different aspects of math, so I don't think it would be confusing for the majority of students including my more math challenged youngest.

It'll be far worse for him to go a year without either one prior to standardized testing. I'll probably even be "mean" and make him continue geometry after school next year while he's doing Alg 2 at school - just to keep his skills up for those standardized tests and general knowledge.

Our tentative plan right now is to do Geometry and Alg. II concurrently with Alg. Geometry will be part of a co-op in which the classes are 1. I'm hoping this works! I was searching for more ways to liven up high school level math when I saw this thread from about 10 months ago. Wondering how it's going for those of you who are having your kids take Geometry concurrently with Algebra II? I'd love to compare and contrast programs.

We have been using Jurgensen and AoPS Geometry and then took a break to work on some fun math for a while. Starting January, I plan to see if he'd like to try either NEM or Saxon for a bit just to mix things up a little and give him different approaches and variety. Thanks so much! I am considering doing this for my rising 10th grader. Any idea how to schedule it? A few days of geo and a few of alg 2? If doing them both in one year I'd do them both daily. If doing them both over two years I'd probably divide it up by chapters.

Dd has finished the first year of two that she alternates algebra 2 with geometry. I gave her the option of alternating by chapter, by week, by whatever. She chose to alternate daily. I was sceptical but she did very well. Algebra comes to her more easily so she sees those days as relief from the more time consuming geometry.

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We met with Charlie once a week for two hours over the course of about 3 months. I learned very late that math subjects do not truly belong in the layers we find them in school. It's just handy to know algebra before you need it in geometry or you will have to go back and learn it, or go back and learn trig to move ahead in calculus.

So long as you can get through all the classes whatever order the teachers are used to using will serve you as well as it has those that have gone before you. Also, geometry is a weird beast anyway you cut it versus the algebra to calculus track. But there is maybe a tiny value in getting exposure to proofs before doing induction in algebra 2. I think there may be some Alg 2 content in there now, but still not much. So you are maybe a little marginally better prepared earlier to take the SAT and practice it, if you take geometry earlier.

That test loves the darned vertical angle theorem. I think in the US and Anglo countries, the more typical fashion is algebra 1, geometry, algebra 2. So there are more books, school systems, etc.

VHS versus beta. Or maybe there was a reason why they converged to that, not sure. I guess traditionally schools even quite good ones with smart students didn't cover more than algebra 1 and geometry at all.

Algebra 2 was "college algebra". So maybe there is some argument that if you are only going to get two things done, get algebra 1 and geometry. I would say yes. I also worry about my college students who take time off from math classes, e. You can forget a lot in a single year, especially with technical information that you aren't using some other way.

The same applies to a two year algebra sequence. It makes sense to move directly from the first year to the second rather than taking a year off to do something else. In the US, however, this isn't the usual approach. The reason for this has more to do with teaching to the test, in this case the SAT, rather than any pedagogical reason. The SAT has geometry so students need to complete geometry before their junior year.

Since many students don't take Algebra 1 until their freshman year, this means sliding geometry in between the two algebra courses. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group. Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. Should we finish algebra before starting geometry?